Beyond the Ivory Tower
Beyond the Ivory Tower explores what higher education can learn from the wider world. Each episode examines how other industries solve complex challenges and what those ideas might mean for the future of colleges and universities.
Beyond the Ivory Tower
Introducing Beyond the Ivory Tower
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Imagine a room full of highly experienced university leaders.
There are millions of dollars on the line. Entire academic programs. The futures of students.
Everyone has data. Everyone has strong opinions. Everyone cares deeply.
And no one can agree on what to do next.
In higher education, we are surrounded by intelligence, expertise, and commitment. But when it comes to solving our most complex challenges, we often draw from the same set of ideas, the same peer institutions, and the same playbook.
This podcast starts from a different premise.
What if the answers we need aren’t just inside higher education?
What if we expanded how we learn?
A Stalemate And A Toyota Clue
SPEAKER_00So imagine you're sitting in a room and it's full of just brilliant, deeply committed university leaders. These are people with decades of experience in academia, the most highly regarded scholars in their fields. And there are millions of dollars on the line, entire degree programs. The academic futures of scores of students are basically hanging in the balance. It's a highly contested situation. And everyone in this room, they all have data, they all have really strong opinions, and they all care deeply, but absolutely no one can agree on what to do next. Now here's the crazy part. To solve the problem, you don't think these leaders need to just look at what other colleges or universities have done. You think they actually need to also look at a Toyota manufacturing plant. I mean, it sounds totally absurd on the surface, but what if it's true? It shapes economic mobility in people's lives in these incredibly profound, tangible ways. It's an institution overall that just matters so much to society. But to truly lead in this era of, you know, demographic cliffs and economic and political turbulence, it has to fundamentally expand how it learns. And so my mission is to unpack this really profound irony in this work. This is the problem that I would like to solve. Why is a sector that is entirely dedicated to the concept of learning, structurally isolating itself from the knowledge generated outside its own walls? It's almost paradoxical. It's this idea that higher education is so incredibly unique that it simply cannot borrow ideas from anywhere else. It's the uniqueness trap, and I think it is so pervasive in academia. You hear it all the time. The common defense mechanisms are always like, you know, students aren't customers or universities aren't corporations, we don't sell products, we shape minds, that kind of thing. And to be fair, I can actually understand that instinct, like wanting to protect that boundary. Because the mission of education is genuinely distinct from selling software subscriptions or manufacturing widgets. Completely different end goals. But rejecting outside operational knowledge just because your end product is different, that feels incredibly short-sighted to me. It's a huge blind spot. It's like imagine a master baker and they're making this artisanal sourdough bread from a centuries-old recipe, but they absolutely refuse to use a highly efficient digital inventory system for their ingredients simply because that system was created for a commercial pizzeria. Because they're like, I don't make pizza, I make art, which is some of what I think higher ed does today. The baker is making their daily life exponentially harder by ignoring a tool that solves their exact problem and can be implemented in a way that doesn't take away from what makes their product special, all in the name of preserving their unique identity. That's the shift that I'm calling for. I believe that we can separate the mission from the mechanics and learn from others. The mission of higher education, the pursuit of truth, the development of critical thinking is absolutely unique. No one is arguing that. But navigating extreme organizational complexity, adapting to a rapidly changing economic environment, making high-stakes decisions under immense pressure. Those aren't higher ed problems. They are not uniquely higher ed problems. They are universal leadership and strategy problems. So if a struggling liberal arts college runs into a major challenge, where do they actually look for answers? Many times they look at other struggling liberal arts colleges. So it just creates this echo chamber. A university facing a structural deficit will study how a peer institution handled their deficit even if that peer institution strategy didn't actually work or hasn't been completed yet. What's the question we ask? Who is going through this same thing right now and how are they approaching it? They might not even be finished with implementation yet. And we're studying it. Why? Because at least it's a higher ed solution. So it feels safe. Let's talk about what this can look like in practice. How do other complex industries handle their own existential threats? A cross-sector playbook is something other large organizations use all the time. They do not limit where they learn from. Like hospitals, for instance. They routinely study manufacturing. Think about a hospital emergency room. They deal with human lives, trauma, literal life, or death. And a Toyota plant deals with steel, glass, and highly predictable assembly lines. But hospitals actively study Toyota's lean manufacturing principles, and they use them to solve operational problems in the ER. Now you might be thinking that dealing with a multi-car pileup is nothing like an assembly line putting doors on sedans. How does that actually translate without, you know, treating a patient like a car part? Which is the number one critique we give this cross-sector analysis in higher ed. I believe we can conduct this type of analysis while holding sacred everything that should be kept sacred in education. So by adopting Toyota supply chain logistics, hospitals standardized the exact physical placement of every tool in every room. They minimized the literal footsteps nurses had to take to get supplies. They built visual signals for when inventory was low. They didn't adopt Toyota's goal of building cars. They didn't adopt Toyota's culture. They didn't seek to treat patients inhumanely by improving their workflow. But they adopted Toyota's solution for reducing errors under pressure. I think this is where higher education breaks down. Here we have this example where hospitals have borrowed from Toyota without losing their medical ethics, but the immediate fear for a university is trying to copy a corporate model too literally. Like will studying a tech startup's organizational chart turn my beloved historic institution into a soulless corporation? Not if our focus is translation, not replication. I am not encouraging us to look across sectors to replicate them, to copy them, to turn colleges and universities into something that they are not. This podcast looks at how leaders in business, tech, and other sectors are solving complex problems right now, and then translating those ideas, filtering them heavily, filtering them into what they mean for higher ed. On this podcast, I'll be bringing in examples and cases to show how this actually works in practice. It's about expanding the view of what's possible and creating a space for us to think differently. So, what can higher education possibly learn from another sector? Let's go back to that boardroom we started the show with. You can't open a newsletter or a higher ed publication right now without seeing another headline about budget cuts, program consolidation, or staff layoffs. In the story we started with, which is an actual situation that I faced as an education strategist, the university is facing a major shortfall and trying to decide what gets cut. Very common scenario today. Everyone has data proving their department is the most vital. Leadership is completely stuck. How can a cross-sector framework actually solve that specific real-world bottleneck? You'll see in this podcast how a university could leverage how hospitals approach triage by establishing criteria ahead of time. In a hospital triage scenario like a mass casualty event, doctors do not debate the value of a patient's life in the middle of the chaos. There's no time for a committee meeting. They agree on a specific set of clinical criteria before the crisis ever happens. So if a patient meets criterion A, they get the operating room immediately. If they meet criterion B, they wait, because debating in the moment literally costs lives. Now back to our university boardroom. How many of our leaders are creating task forces and trying to establish the criteria during the crisis while everyone is already emotionally compromised? Everyone is defending their own turf. The English department is panicking. Engineering is getting defensive. So what does translating the triage matrix look like? It means leadership spends their time in shared governance during peacetime, before the budget crisis hits, agreeing on the institutional criteria for survival. They might agree that preserving programming that contributes heavily to first-generation student graduation rates holds a higher priority than preserving academic programs with low enrollment. The hospital industry's practices to establish triage criteria can teach us how to establish the shared definition of a good decision, leveraging the promise of shared governance before the emotion hits. Leaders in higher education are under so much pressure right now, and my intention is not to pile it on. But I think we sometimes make it worse by bringing in more noise from other institutions who are facing the exact same challenges rather than defining what the fundamental problem is and the different cross-sector approaches to solving it. What we desperately need is space to think differently. We need a broader set of examples from equally complex organizations that have faced equally complex problems. So if you take one thing from this, it's this. The problem isn't that higher education isn't capable. It's not that leaders aren't thinking hard enough. It's that we're drawing from the same set of ideas, the same examples, the same playbook. And if we want to lead in this next era, we have to expand how we learn. Not by abandoning what makes higher education distinct, but by strengthening it with ideas that were never developed inside it. Because the future of higher education isn't going to be built by only looking inward. It's going to be built by looking beyond it and knowing how to translate what we find. And that's exactly what we're going to keep doing on this show looking beyond higher education and translating what actually works.